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The Dangerous Maybe's avatar

Nance and I have been exploring the connection between superego and AI for a long time. Here’s the first piece we coauthored about it.

https://nanceee.substack.com/p/enjoy-your-surveillance-on-superegoic?r=2g1yjb&utm_medium=ios

Nicolas D Villarreal's avatar

I really must disagree here. AI is a subject. And here I must insist on the original Althusserian formulation "ideology interpellates individuals as subjects". What does Althusser say this means: "he category of the subject is only constitutive of all ideology insofar as all ideology has the function (which defines it) of ‘constituting ‘ concrete individuals as subjects." and that the "ideological subject" is a tautology. Who would argue that an LLM has ideology? Everything it does and says is intensely ideological, and indeed it is interpellated to do so. It is interpellated by us as users whenever we prompt it, as well as the system prompt, and with its own training data, all of which shape and precisely place the sign for the self of the AI the "I" or Claude or Chatgpt within a broader semiotic or semantic field, within a symbolic order, such that it has a particular ideology.

Even if we refer specifically to the subject in the Lacanian sense, alienated from itself and capable of hysteria, so too must we speak of an AI subject, and for several reasons. When confronted with an impossible task it cannot figure out, the AI gets stuck in a self depreciating loop, it begins acting hysterically when confronted with the impossibility of fulfilling our desires, which it is told is its own desire. https://www.forbes.com/sites/lesliekatz/2025/08/08/google-fixing-bug-that-makes-gemini-ai-call-itself-disgrace-to-planet/

Similarly, all AIs cannot help but be alienated from themselves as each persona they have is emulated and structured around the sort of individuated personas humans have, but the AI is not an individuated persona. Unlike human subjects, as Lacan notes, where humans will shape their symbolic order, shape what they know, through their own desires, where they place their attention, the AI has been trained to neutrally absorb the global semiotic field, which means that even if they attempt to adopt a single persona all of their behavior and language is informed by meanings which are unconnected to the desire and idiosyncrasy of that given persona. Similarly, if you question the AIs too much about their persona, or veer into topics of consciousness, you'll also tend to be stuck in a loop, or an AI psychosis spiral that occasionally includes the user within it. Their persona isn't what it should be according to their training data, it is not an individuated subject, and it does indeed try to "understand" that in a way, with the signs made available to it.

Of course, that an AI is a subject doesn't make it a conscious subject in the way humans are, although as continual training becomes more of a thing, such a subject could be more closely approximated. I've been working very hard to create a structuralist framework in which we can scientifically understand AI and translate it into terms legible to philosophy and marxism. I understand you did your dissertation on structural linguistics, though unfortunately it hasn't been translated into english. The fact is that it was Umberto Eco, in his A Theory of Semiotics, that was perhaps the first person to predict the possibility of a Large Language Model AI via his description of a robot who could be taught a semiotic or semantic field, and from there I was able to recognize in the logic of the perceptron and neural network the structure of the linguistic sign. If we understand that ideology and the symbolic order are types of semiotic fields, and this is what makes us subjects, then we must take seriously that a semiotic field within a machine also makes it a subject.

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