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Clive's avatar

“if Ukraine falls, this would give incentive to Russia to go on to conquest other countries.”

Incentive to conquest other countries? _What_ incentive? If Russia were to achieve its goals and achieve its security, this would then somehow “incentivize” it to want to take Warsaw, Berlin, Paris?

I have seen NO EVIDENCE for this claim, trotted out as regularly as it is. Russia does not want NATO butting up against it. It’s been quite clear on this for some time now. This is not unreasonable and is in line with what other world powers would feel compelled to prevent, by force if necessary.

Yes, the utter foolishness of the West has likely “emboldened” Russia. It does not follow that they are now, or ever were, bent on conquering Europe.

If we in the West took into account the reasonable demands of other nations (or, indeed, assisted in good faith in the implementation of accords such as Minsk I/II) we would all be living in a much more peaceful world.

Quite surprised to hear this line from Zizek, but I know he enjoys being the contrarian

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Denis P. Gill's avatar

Pope Francis is correct. There is no possible way for Ukraine to defeat Russia. When an army is defeated, Christian morality requires that the defeated army should not continue to throw away the lives of its men. The Yanks have led Ukraine down the path of total destruction - and the rest of Europe isn't far behind. As Henry Kissinger famously said - To be America's enemy is dangerous. To be America's friend can be lethal.

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